Those are things we don’t want in the United States and one other thing There’s people with predatory behavior in every– Excuse me, but you get mad at me But if I could say this, it’s not baked into their religion Trump supporters, can I have you over there. My immigrants can I have you in the other light? Sometimes I feel anxious about how the other side views me. Uh, so it’s not necessarily about the idea of immigrants, but I’m Muslim and there can be a lot of directed aggression from Trump supporters that I think I felt and other people in my Muslim community have felt and That’s why I’m here sitting with you guys. I own a clothing line Magga preneur. This is my clothing line. I’m a political strategist and a political activist and when I leave my house, I am in fear for my life because every day I get death threats So I think we both should be able to freely express ourselves. I love everybody, I’m here for everybody I’ll fight for your right for freedom, but I expect for you to fight for mine too because that’s why we’re in America My name is Shastina, so I absolutely love immigration but I believe that we need to secure our border and it’s the same thing of I wouldn’t just let anyone in my car or in my house. Alright, disagreers come on in I used to get anxious about How I’m perceived not just by some quote-unquote other side because my identity is very apparent in standing in my truth I think it allows other folks to stand in theirs and to invite people to also learn more about me rather than Be worried about how I’m perceived. I think my group gets represented unfairly in the media. [laughter] Well I’m a Mexican and I hesitated because when Trump said that things about Mexicans being criminals and all that I I didn’t take it personal because I’m not that So I was like that does not represent me like I’ll take things yeah, so that’s why I hesitated But then I’m like I am not only one Mexican individual who’s an immigrant I’m part of all the immigrants no matter. What country You’re from We can say the same thing for Trump supporters right I mean Now we have to maybe I wasn’t called a racist, but you were called racist well guess what we’re both Trump supporters So now we have to band together Could I, could I ask both of you a question and I’d like an honest reaction to this in my mind, It’s languaging I’m a writer, and I think if we made a distinction between jihadists and Muslims that would solve a big problem That’s plausible and I think a lot of that goes in it’s really the realm of how much people really are interested in understanding that kind of diversification and uh, allowing the community that does know that really I don’t know take the lead and Initiative and show other people what that’s about. I feel threatened by this presidency. When President Trump got elected as president. I was scared even though I had Not a reason to because I’m legal here power becomes scary in hands of a monster power becomes scary in hands of ignorance, and I’m scared about My people and not only like I said the Mexicans all the good, hard-working immigrants. Yeah, I think the election night was when I felt alarmed. I’ve been a community organizer and an activist for 15 years now right that night It felt like a slap in the face To all of the work that we have always tried to do in terms of humanizing ourselves. My name is Kipasha I think we realize as immigrants how lucky we are to be here, and that’s why we want to create a society That’s more welcoming for others to be here>>You said it was a slap in the face, and I take offense to that because You’re saying you work so hard And yet we work so hard to to Elect a president of the United States that we think will enforce the the laws We’ll enforce the United States Constitution and it wasn’t to be racist or it wasn’t to Boot you out of the country, and it was to enforce the First Amendment It’s actually to enforce your freedom of speech. I understand why you’re scared That as a white Trump supporter I am scared of this presidency because I have lost my freedom of speech I have lost my freedom of religion I have lost my freedom to wear this shirt in the public just because I have a different political view Now I’m the enemy in my own country I think that that’s unfortunate about happened to you But it’s almost like you have some semblance of the reality that people of color live with for centuries here And I’ve never seen that and I’ve never the first time you felt that right, right But I I’m just gonna let you know that my neighbors are black. I have Muslim neighbors I have I have neighbors of all kinds when we go to the grocery store, and I’m picking out yogurt I’m picking out yogurt this looks like someone just like you, but it doesn’t mean that you experience the same thing I think even though we eat the same yogurt but nobody in my County treats people like that it’s Just not. I don’t think you would be able to say that I’ve lived in Orange County up until a few months ago If I’m at a mall or if I’m even at the beach right I get a lot of strange stares I even feel like a lot of people after the election came up to me asking me about my positions my religion my identity so what I’m trying to say is like I can actually relate to what you went through because that to be honest is a shred of similarity to what people of color we came here, and then we were born basically sure I Believe in immigration, but I am against illegal immigration My whole thing is assimilation right so like making sure that the culture’s match if you know someone in the Middle East who’s Gay will be killed right That’s a thing and it’s horrible if someone with that culture is somehow makes it through vetting and comes here And then sees a gay couple you know kissing or whatever They’re gonna Freak out or they’re gonna react very differently in a way that you know we’re trying to move past or not trying to be held back by so I believe assimilation is Probably one of the most important factors of why we need legal and not illegal immigrations my thing is about money An awful lot of people who came here legally don’t want Illegal people being able to come or get free college it costs a hundred and eighteen billion Dollars in welfare benefits, that’s a huge Why do I have to pay so that Walmart has cheap workers my name is Ken hunger? I don’t have anything against immigrants. It’s a political problem. It’s not an immigrant problem. I Was an illegal immigrant at one point in my life I am not anymore but ultimately we left a country of war a country where extremism and terrorism was a reality and This is something that was on a daily oppression towards women If we don’t have legal immigration And we’ll have that here we want you to come and be safe But don’t you want that for everyone else? doesn’t matter where you’re coming from I think it might be a misconstrued and/or a misconception to think that the Illegal immigrants might bring up the crime rates and when we’re talking about what happens After immigrants or refugees or illegals or anything coming to the state and how can we help them from here? I think that is the real essential question we have a humanitarian duty to help one another out regardless of if we’re Afghan if we’re Israeli if we’re American we’re all humans ultimately it’s so fantastic But what about our vets what about our children that are starving? What about our foster homes that are full? What about them? We’re not helping them, we’re taking in all these refugees if we can’t fix our citizens How can we fix others? It’s just kind of like if I can’t love myself. I can’t love another person It should be easier to immigrate into America It should be easier the way time should be shorter, right But I believe that it’s so lengthy not because the process is so extreme. I’ve I mean personally I think it’s so lengthy because it’s mismanaged. Yeah, I think that Well that too, but I think it’s just like there’s a way in a process That should be put in place so it’s not 15 years. Let’s say that they fully cooperate, right Let’s say they have everything they have all the documents, and they’re ready yeah, I think it should be a lot shorter Do you think make it less bureaucratic yeah basically, okay? I mean I think I would agree with that I just feel like when it comes to Trump you support the individual, but then the bureaucracy the Administration all of that is so painstaking just so inefficient and in all of this it doesn’t really compute for me So I think we’ve been in there a year, right? Yeah, we have so many changes that we want to make so let’s talk about a couple of policy things What about the Muslim banner the travel ban the travel ban to me was more about? Obama But it was enacted by Trump. Don’t don’t get me wrong I agree with the travel ban right and I agree with refugees But that’s two separate things to me so what I’m trying to say is that none of these policies that are happening are Not to do with one another they’re all Intertwined when we say we support the travel ban, but we also support refugees But we also want to like help them get vaccinations And we also want to do that some islands want to well don’t forget We’re funding the same bombs that are causing The Yemenis to have to become route there has to be a reason right so so it’s so it’s all it’s all it’s all connected Right so, so why are we bombing Yemen personally? I haven’t looked into Yemen. I guess I’m missing your point Refugees you support Yes travel, ban this one, ban you support. It’s not me. It’s not a mother. Yes. I support a travel, ban So we can assess who’s coming in. I just think it’s important to contextualize like you’re saying nothing happens in a vacuum Yeah, right, and I think that if we start to actually connect the dots like I’m encouraging us to do then It’ll become a lot more understandable, I mean I don’t believe anyway I Would like to answer your question about why we’re bombing Yemen We’re not palm in Yemen were bombing radical jihadists in Yemen who were killing people That’s why we’re bombing parts of Yemen Selectively to kill people who are doing terrible terrible things, and there’s a tremendous amount of rape happening in England Taking these little girls grooming them because they feel they have the right to do we don’t want that here those are things We don’t want in the United States and one other thing. There’s people with predatory behavior in every excuse me If I could say this and you’ll get mad at me But if I could say this it’s not baked into their religion There are a hundred and nine passages in the Quran where people are told to kill infidels and in Christians and Jews there’s nothing like that in our Bible or in the Bhagavad-gita or in anything Buddha taught or any other religion. I’m aware of in the world until people renounce those values then They scare me I don’t think so I haven’t renounced any part of my religion in front of you, so I hope that you don’t feel threatened by me So I’m not sure what you mean by that And I won’t renounce any part of it slam the point that I’m trying to make is that you didn’t really answer the question No, he did. He said the reason why we’re bombing him on Yemen is to save the people because I’m assuming that in Yemen. We’ve Managed to keep out people like that guys remember. This is a video of a trumpet immigrants. We’re mixing too much the religion Well, I think the race the Taliban yes, yes that you shouldn’t question somebody’s religion. I am very religious very religious and I’m not putting anything About my religion in here I’m here to talk about me as an immigrant you guys are here to talk about Donald Trump’s like supporting him and yes I’ve learned a lot like you guys are human, too. You have values you Who would have thought you know that we would have found? Common ground and we wouldn’t like hit each other right here You know because after the media portraying you guys as bad, or closest terrorist whatever right? I think the media is getting us all in a different light Yeah, I think that we’re portraying ourselves in a very different light, too I mean I feel very attacked just now for my religion when I did start to talk about myself as an immigrant You don’t say you kept talking about the travel, ban. It’s a Muslim, but that has nothing to do with immigration It’s not a Muslim But what I’m trying to just say is that no one should have to explain Muslim Christian Jewish none of the above What they are to you, but Muslims? Continuously have to defend. Not only their religion, but their humanity what I love about this country is the Diversity I just when I came here from Mexico I just loved how there was different religions different colors different people like it’s amazing It’s it’s beautiful, and I don’t I don’t understand how empty of a human you have to be to discriminate someone just because of their looks, it’s it’s these pre-programmed thoughts in our head from just media as what I believe just blowing things out of proportion just Consistently just the outlook on Minorities or the outlook on people in certain situations is just bad once you humanize someone when you’re having a conversation When I and I look past you know whatever these biases that people try to Enact on me right or that I see and I start looking at you as a person I start listening to what you’re saying you really realize that it’s not that different I mean we just we have different situations we have different information But we’re all trying to do the best that we have I think the real interesting aspect that I guess a lot of discrimination is really about is taking this general idea of phenomenon where you can associate my case at least like Muslims Terrorists equal each other and take individuals and group them so easily with that sort of discrimination And I think that’s something that we have to work towards in terms of separating ourselves from doing that Thank you. 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Why do people always say “oh , I have gay friends I’m not homophobic” or “I have black neighbours I’m not racist” like what’s your point
The Muslim girl was prepared for everything, and o don’t think the female Trump Supporter knew she was being racist or making statements of nonsense. This was a very interesting video!
“I get death threats” STFU
Again trump isn't agaisnt immigrants he is against illegal immigrants not matter where you come from . im mexican and felt the sameway the immigrants felt that but once i got educated about politics i was getting all worked up for nothing.
You heard that everyone lets all eat the same yogurt and racism is nomo
Last time I checked it’s some pretty sick stuff in the King James Bible 💀
My birthday day was on the day trump got elected and i was mad
Obama is still my president
“I mean I don’t believe in bombing anyway”
but….
“We are bombing Yemen to save them”
We're bombing them to save them is something that was just said unironically.
Hope Joseph's not Filipino cause the things he said were just….. wowwwwwww Not just in this episode but in others too.
ok but the white lady really made me mad, she really kept cutting ppl off, didn’t talk and narrow things out with the other side.
7:39 I’m sorry but why did she interrupt him.😐
I don't believe anything the white lady says. She's received death threats? Where? At
Trump rallies? Trump rallies are hate rallies. I could never do this. Sit with these privileged awful people.
White ppl always afraid of illegal immigration cause of what they did to Indigenous ppl
The guy who said "I believe in assimilation" makes me want to throw hands.
4:21 ok relax Karen
The white lady sounds like she is the only American in the room
Yo I think Native folks….
The amount of patience and self control that Muslim girl had while that guy criticized and reprobated her religious omgawd queen 🙏🙏
Literally brung a trump clone
somebody get that white lady out of there she's high af
Just ask the muslim girl "Do you Believe in GAY rights?" if "yes" then she renounced a part of her religion.
I hate how she keeps softening her voice, it’s annoying
I'm a trump supporter, but jesus christ that woman trump supporter is annoying. I hate when they do that super soft voice to try to exaggerate their supposed empathy.
He’s lying . I couldn’t attend college until I had legal documentation
Trump 2020
So if u support Trump ur racist or what is this video referring to?
Them white people ain’t fearing for the life,now I understand just because she a republican other people don’t like her but come on these people exaggerate to the most!
That joseph looks like a proud boy
people that say this is their country and that people shouldn’t immigrate illegally are hypocrites because if we look back they were the ones that came here and stole it from the natives without care for them so why should we care for them
It is true that people are doing onto others that they themselves are condemning(if that makes sense, I've had 3 hrs of sleep). Free speech is very important for every single person that exists. If people come together we need to look beyond things that we perceive as a barrier (religion, sex, culture, color ism, sex, etc) and that we are all vulnerable peoples and all trying to survive. It is important to coexist in a peaceful manner.
I would like to see a well articulated Native American to speak on Immigration in these discussions, as well. Since America was created on stolen land and the first amendment did not respect of First Nation People. I would like to have the voice of First Nations people included as a part of this discussion of immigrants and commenting on the first amendment in America.
You are the enemy
Rape will never stop you can’t stop it it happens
Patriotic Americans are just idiots in general
She's trying to promote her brand but shes actually boycotting it 😂
The American government is the best in the world: help every country in the world that THEY found suspicious and dangerous by sending troops, bombs, spreading the universal value of democracy and liberty meanwhile stealing oils. How clever!
11:39–12:00 Smackdown!!!
😂they're talking to the wrong person
12:30 she realized that they were spitting to many facts
the blonde lady is like the classic stereotypical racist person who tries so hard to make people think they aren’t racist lmao. right down to the “I have black neighbors”
“The reason why we’re bombing Yemen is to save people”
Saving people by… bombing them so…killing them…?
My logic just died here
The trump supporters side sounds like.
Am not racist but…..
Wow comments suck and not on point. I'm not a Trump supporter but I am American born white male. I am independent and can't stand either political party. I'm not a leftist or alt Right. Though I do believe just because we have bad people in America does not mean we need to add more. I have no problems with immigrants coming to America the legal way. In fact I am married to one. Though MAGA folks are being attacked because of leftist politicians and the media. We have relig9 radicals in all religions. I'm against radicals. I have family who are Muslim that I love. Just because people have different views or beliefs does not mean we can't get along. I believe one thing is for sure. You come to America because of our way of living and our freedoms. Do not try to change to your way. We do not change for you. You came here to make a change in your life. I won't impose my beliefs or views on any one from another country. I expect them not to do the same.
If we let all the illegal Immigrants freely flow into the United States, this country will become just as run down as the places they’re trying to run from. We’re too deep into this current economic system and it can’t be changed overnight. It takes patience and a lot of people need to realize that it’s much more complicated than they think it is. We can’t let the country lose all of this progress just because other countries haven’t found a way to fix their own problems yet. Otherwise the run down countries will always expect help from the stable countries, which is fine to a certain extent, but sometimes helping others too much will bring you down to their level. If we bring ourselves down just to help others bring others up, eventually we’ll be in the same boat as them, but this time there won’t be any stable country to help us
the bible actually is hostile against jews in the first testament.. so yea
"As a white Trump supporter, I am scared of this presidency because I have lost my freedom of speech, I have lost my freedom of religion just because I have a different political view." ARE YOU SERIOUS?
The blonde woman needs to stop interrupting and let people speak.
We don't keep out immigrants we only keep out "illegal" immigrants to be specific
The yogurt thing was funny and not well spoken. What she was trying to say was she has neighbors of all backgrounds yet she lives in her county side by side with them and has no issue with it or with them has people.
Stop simplifying her statement to "we all eat yogurt so I'm not racist." That clearly was not the point.
She was wrong in thinking that because she sees no conflict, there is none. So clearly she thinks that because she doesn't treat people of color like crap or see that behavior, that means people in her neighborhood are not racist. That was her ignorant statement, not the yogurt part.
This is assuming that immigrants can’t be trump supporters…
MAGA 2020
I feel sorry for the muslim woman, she was always being interrupted and judged because of her religion, she took it really well though I guess she's kind of use to it, I really liked how se answered the questions both the statements and the other participant's questions.
"Now I'm the enemy, in my own country"
So we forgettin our old weed smoking brothers who owned the region of north america. 🙁
Who else feels like Dr Zakir Naik would school these trumpets if they came across him
Why do people not understand that trump supporters aren't against immigrants but rather against illegal immigrants.
Being careful about who we let in to the country is always misunderstood. We let in terrorists and only a few of them, in the span of one day, killed almost 3,000 Americans of ALL backgrounds/religions/races, etc., destroyed a collection of buildings a part of a monument, and put us in a project to rebuild that cost over 10 billion dollars. If you want to immigrate here, I would hope that history would be respected and that you would first immigrate legally, and then not berate the policies and laws in the country that you chose to come to.
What’s sad is that a lot of white people don’t even realize that they are racist. This isn’t even their land, it’s Native American’s land yet white people think they get to decide laws about immigration. I hope white people know that at one point their ancestors were all immigrants when they came to America.
aS a wHiTe tRuMP SUpPoRter i fEeL thREaTenEd bY thiS PREsideNCy
mexican girl is just so nice
Without committing myself to the diatribe; Trump supporters aren't against immigration, they are against illegal immigration. Jubilee is being suspiciously misleading portraying immigrants and Trump supporters as if they can't be one in the same.
I saw the title and went “Are you trying to spark a little war?” 😂
I wonder how awkward this was
I’m an immigrant Trump Supporter.. Trump does not dislike Immigrants. He has given jobs to thousands of immigrants during his life. He just wants secure borders and he is anti ILLEGAL immigration.
Trump 2020 👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿
11:40 really triggered some flight or fight response there…
you know why they call Islam the Religion of Peace???? a peace over here, a peace over there, ha! get it……
So many salty triggered tears on these comment threads. 😂
The white lady, saying she has lost her freedom of speech when she is in a youtube video freely expressing her beliefs- ironic, it's also ironic that she says she has lost her freedom of religion when christianity is the most widely practiced religion in America, the government has not restricted her freedom of expression in any way, and it is not unconstitutional for the public culture (for lack of a better word) to judge or condem her for her beliefs, opposition from people (what she may experience) isn't endangering any of her rights– don't get me wrong we should treat people with respect no matter what views they hold, however she is just victimizing herself
Illegal immigrants? the white lady was acting as if illegal immigration was her chance of victimizing herself, take a look at first nations do you think they wanted to be assimilated to european culture? And the fact that joseph didnt want ppl to assimilate their country, yet they live in a country that stemmed out of assimilation!
The Muslkm girl saying she feel under threat and America is funding the wars of the middle east, so she says "we run away from danger", then "we are discriminated" then " YOU AVERAGE AMERICAN fuel the wars in my country" and…she's living in America…but she's not funding the war in her country…and she still complains about America…ok go back to your country, oh wait that's racist!! So whatever I say is not valid, not that you can actually reason with a Muslim on this sort of topics lol
mhm mhm go eat your yoghurt shastina
It doesn’t sit right with me when white people speak for the minority. Also, I wasn’t able to love myself till I felt love for another.
man, this blonde lady's voice bothers me. She's acting like shes such a victim.
i liked mister hunger. he had good points and even better hair follicles
This is violence. Those poor immigrants.
The blond lady is annoying with the constant "mhm" and her inconsistency, however I completely agree with the older guy. He's right on point with everything he says (except the Yemen bombings, the US should really stop interfering with other counties' business)
Hey Blony, if you want to follow the Constitution. We have laws implace today that says hiring illegals is illegal. Why are you not mad at all the Americans hiring them. They are the law breakers.
legal immigration is ok…. illegal is wrong…. if you think things should be different, than vote all you want and make a difference…. but live and let live…. but not everyone wants to have the same as you.
The old guy acts like Christianity has never started a war or have killed people. That's to funny.
I'm not racist, I eat tacos.
I think people misunderstand the religion. People want to know more about the religion. Also, the same way we misunderstand races a lot. I think people need to research more before saying "Muslims are bad" or other things like that. Also, I actually think it would be better if we had more civil discussions about all religions and all races so that no one is left out.
I see A lot of people here in the comments are uneducated about politics
The money we spent on weaponry and nuclear weapons could've been used for the foster kids you care so much about karen
I can't take Trump supporters serious
Not to be racist or anything…
I like how White Trump supporters hate illegal immigrants yet 99% of their ancestors killed the Natives and stole their land for no reason
I dont think they saw eye to eye in this one…
Trumpers need to understand, that you can enforce immigration laws without the racist narrative. The racism is the problem not the laws that enforce borders
trump supporters arent people and need to be killed for our survival
The white lady was strangely patronizing in the way she spoke and it annoyed me so much
That white woman makes me cringe Everytime she opens her mouth
This white woman… Who… How… Long sigh…
Why didn't the Hijabi woman shut the trump guy up when he brought up the verses about killing, they don't mean what the trump guy thought it meant. Such a chance lost to clear that misconception but she just let it go like that. WHY?
Can Trump Supporters and Immigrants see eye to eye? No, because trump’s supporters are blinded by hate, it’s their guiding force, however, with prayer, all things are possible.
Why tf is that blonde lady talking about eating yogurt
Uh….there are immigrant Trump supporters….
Legal immigrants VS illegal aliens next.
Just saying those trump supports distant relatives are immagrants
“I have lost my freedom of speech
I have lost my freedom of religion”
No you haven’t
You don’t know what it’s like to be a minority
You’ve lost nothing.
In actuality people don’t vote for the president it’s the Electoral College. It’s a shame our voting system sucks and is so old.